Have people seen the AP article on the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act? The link to the Boston Globe webpage of the article is here, and the link to the NY Times webpage with the article is here. I'm surprised I haven't seen more discussion about it.
Basically, the bill -- which is now law -- creates an exemption in copyright law, which protects companies like ClearPlay. (In fact, the more cynical critics have claimed that the bill's sole purpose was to benefit this one company.) ClearPlay sells filters for your DVD players that automatically skip sections of DVDs. The filters are programmed to cut material some might consider offensive, like sex, violence, or language. The idea is that parents could let their children watch any DVD movie and know that certain scenes they might object to will be cut.
The movie studios have been fighting ClearPlay, claiming that what they're doing is a violation of copyright. Their basic argument is that by changing the content of the films, the filters are creating a new version of the film which is inconsistent with the artistic intent of the creators. Although the bill now allows ClearPlay to sell its filters, the bill does acknowledge that selling a "remixed" copy of the film on a DVD is a copyright violation. So while a company could sell you a preprogrammed filter that would skip certain scenes in certain movies, they can't sell you a DVD with those scenes cut. Of course, the problem ClearPlay has is that the filters have to be programmed on a per-movie basis. If you rented or bought a DVD that the filter wasn't programmed to edit, the movie would run as normal, with whatever sex, violence, and language it has. So if you buy one of these filters, you also have to make sure you only watch certain movies and not others, if you want the "objectionable" scenes edited out.
So...opinions? Should companies like ClearPlay have the right to do this? Does it differ from the way films are edited for television, since in that case the studios are usually consulted? Does this technology and the new law have implications for the world of fan fiction or fan videos? Where would you draw the line?
House of Mabfan: lots of questions, no answers.
Basically, the bill -- which is now law -- creates an exemption in copyright law, which protects companies like ClearPlay. (In fact, the more cynical critics have claimed that the bill's sole purpose was to benefit this one company.) ClearPlay sells filters for your DVD players that automatically skip sections of DVDs. The filters are programmed to cut material some might consider offensive, like sex, violence, or language. The idea is that parents could let their children watch any DVD movie and know that certain scenes they might object to will be cut.
The movie studios have been fighting ClearPlay, claiming that what they're doing is a violation of copyright. Their basic argument is that by changing the content of the films, the filters are creating a new version of the film which is inconsistent with the artistic intent of the creators. Although the bill now allows ClearPlay to sell its filters, the bill does acknowledge that selling a "remixed" copy of the film on a DVD is a copyright violation. So while a company could sell you a preprogrammed filter that would skip certain scenes in certain movies, they can't sell you a DVD with those scenes cut. Of course, the problem ClearPlay has is that the filters have to be programmed on a per-movie basis. If you rented or bought a DVD that the filter wasn't programmed to edit, the movie would run as normal, with whatever sex, violence, and language it has. So if you buy one of these filters, you also have to make sure you only watch certain movies and not others, if you want the "objectionable" scenes edited out.
So...opinions? Should companies like ClearPlay have the right to do this? Does it differ from the way films are edited for television, since in that case the studios are usually consulted? Does this technology and the new law have implications for the world of fan fiction or fan videos? Where would you draw the line?
House of Mabfan: lots of questions, no answers.
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Date: 2005-04-28 03:53 pm (UTC)I think this makes it that much easier for all sorts of other technologies that might be developed to allow people to use and remix the media they buy any way they wish. It can only be a good thing.
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Date: 2005-04-28 04:03 pm (UTC)I wouldn't want my work censored from its original intent unless I had given express permission for it to be done.
Maybe these movie companies should do the editing themselves to take in front of the ratings board and then give you the option when you start the dvd, would you like to see the Unrated, the R, or the PG-13 etc, version? Then the dvd manufacturers could set the filtering to the parent's discretion.
Personally, I just see it as another way to let the government help babysit your children..
ok, rant-mode OFF.
Re: Too much
Date: 2005-04-28 04:08 pm (UTC)And this is not "another way to let the government help babysit your children." This is a private company selling these filters, and nobody is forcing anyone to buy them or use them. This is a way to let parents babysit their own children.
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Date: 2005-04-28 04:05 pm (UTC)It's easy to forget that the sole purpose of copyright law, at least according to the USA constitution, is to provide a financial incentive for artists and inventors. Congress is not authorised to grant copyrights for other reasons, such as to protect creators' 'artistic intent'; the constitution recognises no such right. So, at least in the USA, so long as you're getting your royalty, it's none of your business what people do with it.
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Date: 2005-04-28 04:10 pm (UTC)Excellent analogy.
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Date: 2005-04-28 04:09 pm (UTC)After all, I can skip pages in a book -- I can even buy a copy and cross those scenes out in big black ink. It's harder to do with a VHS tape, and almost impossible with a DVD -- but their technical ability to make something which resists tampering by the end user does not confer a legal right not to be tampered with. I think there's some serious danger that the rights of an owner of a piece of art to use their legally purchased copy in any way they please (is this called the doctrine of first sale, or did I hallucinate that?) are being eroded by new technologies, and this could be interepreted as a corrective to that.
OTOH if you can do it for this kind of filter, then IMO it needs to be legal to do it with *any* kind of filter, including one that only shows the dirty bits. The law should not discriminate on the basis of content.
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Date: 2005-04-28 04:29 pm (UTC)Even if you buy a movie, and a filter, you can still watch the movie unedited if the kids aren't around. You can't do that if the movie was sold in the edited state. You don't even need to buy the movie from the filter provider - ClearPlay in particular does not sell movies.
Since ClearPlay requires you to purchase their specially modified DVD player (they apparently no longer offer a software-based filter), I wonder if they would turn around and sue someone who offered filters for sale that worked on their DVD player? Especially if the filter was one of the "only show the dirty bits" type.
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Date: 2005-04-28 04:45 pm (UTC)it was written by Alan Dean FosterI don’t like it.)Then again, I think US IP law in the form its taken over the last decade or so is an appalling, dangerous, socially cancerous travesty to start with, so I see this particular issue as more or less a question of where to place the deck chairs on the Titanic. :-)
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Date: 2005-04-28 04:54 pm (UTC)I have no problems with the concept of ClearPlay, but it would be nice if it could be "user-tweaked"...that is, let the parent decide to what level they want to filter.
I do have a problem with (what I'm interpreting as) the inability of the product to apply to movies going forward since apparrently the coding is movie-specific and already in there...so in a year or two when a whole new batch of movies have come out, is the user going to have to buy ClearPlay's product all over again?
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Date: 2005-04-28 05:19 pm (UTC)According to their Web site, they do allow this, although they don't go into specifics other than to say that there are 14 different settings you can play with.
so in a year or two when a whole new batch of movies have come out, is the user going to have to buy ClearPlay's product all over again?
You buy the DVD player once. You continue to buy the filters, which you download from their Web site (for a fee), burn onto a CD, and then put onto the DVD player.
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Date: 2005-04-28 06:16 pm (UTC)I'm all for the offering of tools to help parents bring up their kids however they see fit...I'm opposed to caving in to parents pressuring the TV/movie people to do it for them. Don't think show X is suitable? Don't let your kid watch! If you can't control your own kid's viewing habits, that's not the TV's fault its yours. IMAO.
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Date: 2005-04-28 04:55 pm (UTC)If I buy it I can view it however I want, and I can use whatever third-party tools I like to do that.
Now, all that said, when will I be able to buy a widget that skips past all the legal junk and previews at the beginning of a DVD? This gets really tiresome when watching multi-disc collections (like TV series).
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Date: 2005-04-28 07:23 pm (UTC)Rumor has it that in order to get a license to make a DVD player, you have to promise not to let the customer skip over the scenes marked as unskippable, i.e., the legal junk and the ads. (It's a rumor because as far as I can tell, in order to get the complete specs for Things Your DVD Player May Not Do, you have to sign an NDA.)
A Linux box with xine and libdvdcss might do what you want. (Disclaimer: I don't know whether or not installing libdvdcss is legal in the US.)
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Date: 2005-04-28 09:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-04-28 04:58 pm (UTC)There are movies made specifically for kids which have plenty to keep adults amused and involved; I find it silly to use that as a defense of censorship. You could do nothing but watch G and PG movies for a year (although why these parents can't go out and play a little soccer with their kids now and again is beyond me) and not come to the end of the amazing offerings available. Monster's Inc? Flight of the Navigator? Isn't this why we dreamed up the rating system in the first place?
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Date: 2005-04-28 07:11 pm (UTC)I'm somewhat disappointed by the fact that there's now an explicit law protecting ClearPlay; I was kinda hoping that the ClearPlay issue would give the Supreme Court a chance to put the smackdown on the MPAA and remind the "content" industry that their copyrights do not make them feudal lords over their customers.
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Date: 2005-04-28 07:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-02 01:37 pm (UTC)I'm not a parent. Does it show?
And I'm not a film maker either, but if I were, I might feel that I'd rather have my film made whole and censored by people who watch it on DVD, than have it cut to suit those people before it ever got out of the studio.